BowelBro Richard Davies Bowel Cancer Influencer

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Absolute ditto, I was the same, never heard of T,..... the whole thing makes me uncomfortable, I'm sure we are not alone,.... she never addresses the elephant in the room, the missing money, were is it. ? So of course people are still going to ask and keep asking, I for one wants to know were it is.......they can't just keep it. My comments on here are just frustration based. Like you say the whole thing is out of hand now...... she could of ended all this months ago.
Beginning to think shes one of those people who find life boring unless theres drama in it. If my partner had just died I wouldnt be doing any of this. Its just madness, but I'm not walking away till she answers to where the book is and where the money is.
That money came from kind generous people who may of been suffering with cancer themselves.
God...I feel like a parrot on constant repeat. I thought all this would stop with his "death" but no....
We all sound like we’re on repeat because we can’t believe that this hasn’t been resolved. I agree it feels like someone likes the drama and attention. They tell you to ignore your kid’s bad behaviour because any attention is better than none, but this can’t be ignored because as you said there are apparently lots of people who paid good money for a book that they still haven’t had and donated to a gofundme for someone with a Ferrari and £2million house. That does not sit comfortably. And we’re not dealing with children. Smoke and mirrors and attacking innocent people won’t change that. I just wish Lisa would just come out and say she doesn’t know what the hell to do, needs help and advice, & set herself free from all of this. But that’s all I’ve ever said and she decided to ignore it and be abusive.
 
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Yes for some reason I thought it was the same person, 🙄
What lisa did was bang out of order, I dont know how she keeps getting away with it, maybe now shes making a habit of it, the police will take notice...and give her a warning, She not untouchable. I hope the other lady stands by her report to the police. Dont the followers think this screams of richard all this nasty behaviour, maybe we have it wrong and she was the nasty one, and it rubbed off on richard, she certainly seems to be carrying it on without him, are the followers clapping hands an saying well done lisa. The grief tourists, ....makes them just as bad....and they are quick enough to send nasty messages out to this lady, who only wanted a bloody refund, so who exactly are the trolls here!! One tattler said shes going to get her own thread at this rate. !
 
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When they called Belle Gibson cancer insta scammer, out over her lies and missing charity money, she went missing for three months, then came back and did an interview, totally blaise about everything, said it was the drs/hospitals fault, and has never paid any of the money back yet. Is there a second one, or was that it? She even did a book, that penguin pulled as soon as they found out.
People need to be held accountable for what they do, too many scammers in this world. Sad sad people.
 

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When they called Belle Gibson cancer insta scammer, out over her lies and missing charity money, she went missing for three months, then came back and did an interview, totally blaise about everything, said it was the drs/hospitals fault, and has never paid any of the money back yet. Is there a second one, or was that it? She even did a book, that penguin pulled as soon as they found out.
People need to be held accountable for what they do, too many scammers in this world. Sad sad people.
There were so many things in that doc that rang alarm bells! I have to say I actually laughed out loud when she turned up representing Ethiopian minorities and spoke in her pigeon Ethiopian!!! But it’s definitely an illness to be that delusional that you can’t see the harm you’ve caused others.
 

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We all seem to feel exactly the same. I followed him, as at the time a close family member had just been diagnosed with cancer and because I had been googling a lot about cancer on my IG feed a-lot of cancer pages kept being suggested and I also followed Bowel Babe. I was a ‘cherub’ to start and I listened to his rants about T, I thought these people sounded terrible but I had also started noticing his post were becoming less cancer and more: look what I’ve got!

I remember when he posted one of his rants there was a comment along the lines of: don’t give these people your time and energy and he replied and said along the lines of: I don’t waste energy and they don’t affect my life at all, in the last two months I’ve done……… he listed all these flashy things like honeymoon on private island, flying first class, casinos trips, eating in top London restaurants ect ect ect and I remember thinking wow! What’s that got to do with people trolling and what kind of reply is that? It was just another way to show off. Anyway he came off IG and I actually got worried he may have passed away. I googled his name and T kept coming up. I was bored one evening and I read each thread. I must admit there were comments I totally did not agree with, all the personal stuff but there was also a-lot that did make sense. He then came back into IG and from that day I see him differently and then he got worse the car came and other things, more nasty rants ect. I do feel terrible that at then end of it a young man lost his life BUT as said before having cancer does not give you the right or the excuse to take money and scam ect.

Do you remember there was a friend who said someone in their family had lent Richard money so he could help his sick Dad. They never got it back, they tried then he got diagnosed with cancer so they felt bad chasing him. It’s kind of what’s happening now, people are being made to feel bad about chasing a widow about the book, refunds and clarity on where all that GFM money and gala money went does deserve answers.

Anyway yes I feel I’m constantly repeating myself, I’m just as equally frustrated as you all. Especially how others can’t just see what we can see 😩
 
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Yes for some reason I thought it was the same person, 🙄
What lisa did was bang out of order, I dont know how she keeps getting away with it, maybe now shes making a habit of it, the police will take notice...and give her a warning, She not untouchable. I hope the other lady stands by her report to the police. Dont the followers think this screams of richard all this nasty behaviour, maybe we have it wrong and she was the nasty one, and it rubbed off on richard, she certainly seems to be carrying it on without him, are the followers clapping hands an saying well done lisa. The grief tourists, ....makes them just as bad....and they are quick enough to send nasty messages out to this lady, who only wanted a bloody refund, so who exactly are the trolls here!! One tattler said shes going to get her own thread at this rate. !
I have a feeling the other person won’t report her either. I think people 1. are scared and 2. have been made to feel guilty. Unfortunately it means other people will fall foul of the rants because there’s no repercussions. Too many things are being twisted. Just like her response to me being that pointing out the fact the book hadn’t materialised meant I wanted it not be published. Did I say that? I believe I said if it wasn’t going to be she had to refund people, and as the evidence was pointing towards that being the case both from her actions (or lack of) and anecdotal evidence I think that was a reasonable comment. As I said, I’m a lawyer, and I pay great attention to my words. And to those of others. And you’re right, it’s that Lord of the flies behaviour - people are jumping on the bandwagon they were criticising and don’t seem to understand it makes them just as bad.
 

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I have a feeling the other person won’t report her either. I think people 1. are scared and 2. have been made to feel guilty. Unfortunately it means other people will fall foul of the rants because there’s no repercussions. Too many things are being twisted. Just like her response to me being that pointing out the fact the book hadn’t materialised meant I wanted it not be published. Did I say that? I believe I said if it wasn’t going to be she had to refund people, and as the evidence was pointing towards that being the case both from her actions (or lack of) and anecdotal evidence I think that was a reasonable comment. As I said, I’m a lawyer, and I pay great attention to my words. And to those of others. And you’re right, it’s that Lord of the flies behaviour - people are jumping on the bandwagon they were criticising and don’t seem to understand it makes them just as bad.
You always word things perfectly. If the other sites hadn’t have got so personal at times and had just stuck with pointing out facts or the bits that hadn’t added up then maybe when he went on his rants and In turn that had sent some of his curious cherubs over to T then maybe a lot more of them would have scene what we can so clearly see.
 
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Yes, remember all that, ....he was all about the money, I really dont know how these followers think this is ok behaviour, are they really so gullible,..... do they really not have a single shadow of doubt, ??? Or maybe we are dealing with people who would do the same, shes a middle aged woman acting like a gangster, very undignified and unattractive. If he had so much money, and such a fabulous life, why was he glued to the Instagram and social media etc all the time, just so he could boast. and if they had so much money why the gofundme and charity gala.....to raise money for treatment, which he got on NHS.
Sorry but its not a couple of £100 quid we are talking about here ..its flippin thousands and thousands.........do they really think they wont be held accountable. !!
Yes i rem the friend, more money they never paid back.
 
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Well the more she does it, the more likely the police are to step in, shes encouraging hate and harrassment, shes a clever queen of trolls that gets other people to do her dirty work for her!! and the cherubs are ok with that are they......sending troll messages out to a vulnerable disabled lady whos only issue was messaging and asking for an refund, exactly what lisa accused others of doing to her, she encites the cherubs to do to others..send hateful messages, are people not quite getting this..???
Disgusting the lot of them.
 
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Im confused- has the elmstreet lady anything to do with BowelBro? Did she even order a book?
I don’t think anyone knows why bowel bro doxed her. Whether she asked for a refund or thought she had identified her as someone on this site? The lady took it in her stride though didn’t she? So well done her.
 
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Never saw it. Cant comment dont know what she was supposed to have done, but if it was over the book, she had every right to call her out, if shes so bereaved why is she fighting and argueing with people on social media, just like richard did.
 

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I can’t see it myself on IG but someone has posted on T that they have realised an update on the IG account about the book. T haven’t shared any screen shots of the said update though.
 

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They have now posted her updates. Doesn’t really make any sense to me. States the March 2024 that I was given by the publisher is actually the trade/ marketing date but all people who have pre ordered will get it……imminently!!! Although the publisher is still deciding on a front cover and once that’s decided they will then get a print date agreed form a 3rd party printers and then once the print date is agreed it will be approx 3 weeks from that date. So not quiet imminently then 🙈 and no actual definite date mentioned this time either. So October had rolled to November, from the above November will roll into December. Could December then roll into January 2024? which goes back to Bobs phone call and being told no plans until 2024!!!

Also I will point out that the publisher when telling me March 2024 didn’t think I was a trades person or retailer I inquired as a purchaser from the significantfind website
 
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Lot of boll@cks, they decided on a front cover months ago....why third party printers. just trying to blind people with facts......exactly they didnt even ask if your were trade or individual, what another s**tload of lies.
 

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They have now posted her updates. Doesn’t really make any sense to me. States the March 2024 that I was given by the publisher is actually the trade/ marketing date but all people who have pre ordered will get it……imminently!!! Although the publisher is still deciding on a front cover and once that’s decided they will then get a print date agreed form a 3rd party printers and then once the print date is agreed it will be approx 3 weeks from that date. So not quiet imminently then 🙈 and no actual definite date mentioned this time either. So October had rolled to November, from the above November will roll into December. Could December then roll into January 2024? which goes back to Bobs phone call and being told no plans until 2024!!!

Also I will point out that the publisher when telling me March 2024 didn’t think I was a trades person or retailer I inquired as a purchaser from the significantfind website
What a load of flippin tit, she was saying it wasnt March a few days ago, that we were all lying trolls,!!!!! now has conveniently remembered it could be the trade date, but in the last screenshot it might not go to trade because it might not of been what Richard wanted. And it's still imminent!!!!!! Always imminent, imminent imminent imminent!!!
And yes sal, the email never asked about trade or individual, never said it would be different dates, they put a pic up of the front cover months ago, so now they adding to the delay by doing a surprise one, she was saying it was good to go by end of october, has everyone forgotten that, oh you really have been busy think tanking the last few days haven't you," how can we wriggle out of this one "

Do all the cherubs and book buyers seriously believe all this, I suggest everyone calls the publisher for their words on this, this is not on.
 
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Oh my gosh how thick do they actually think people are,???
Thick as mince as he used to say....the cherubs need to look at all past promises over this book, she was saying it was ready to go in october, but now they've got all this to do, you are insulting people with all these lies, .....just stop!!!
 

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EDIT: Looking at Troubador’s site it seems that for a fee they can try to get your book placed. It doesn’t say where however. This is called vanity publishing for a reason, and that being that people want to see their name and story in print. RD was lucky that he had platform on which he pre-sold (although people have no idea exactly what they’re getting) so will make money. Most people don’t.

Just caught up on all of this. What the heck is going on?? What is she talking about, publishing for trade and retail? Apart from Amazon you have to get a deal with a retailer, and Amazon have their own print on demand service for self-publishers who aren’t going straight to kindle. I’ve put some of the info I found below. Lisa, or frankly at this point whoever it is, is treating people like complete idiots. For a bereaved woman who wants sympathy she’s spending a hell of a lot of time arguing with everyone, and there’s a school of thought that says she’s protesting too much. Say the date if there is one, and stick to it. You don’t need to say anything else and frankly you’re digging yourself into a massive great big hole. Stop with the emotional blackmail, and changing the story about what RD had planned. He told people the book was only going to be sold to his followers. His cherubs. Other than a whimsy about signing books outside Waterstones, the only other thing was trying to get bestseller status on Amazon. There was no discussion about selling the book to the public, so that’s completely new. Why is she saying that? All she needed to say was that they’d missed the opportunity to publish this year because it’s now too close to Christmas, or, as the publishers implied, there are family members who may not be on board with the plan. Nobody would have minded a delay if it was explained. And everyone would understand a change of heart. The screaming and shouting about what we’re saying is moronic now! Stop twisting our words Lisa please.

Results of a quick google search:
  • Waterstones keep self-published authors at arm’s length by requiring them to fill in a submission form on their website. I submitted my book initially on publication, and then again once I was achieving good sales and publicity. Zero response.
  • WHSmith book buyers can only be reached through emails sent via their customer relations department. Zero response.
  • I’ve investigated whether Gardners will promote my book to retailers, but they publicise new titles only.
  • I’ve called in to my local bookstores, WHSmith and Waterstones. Waterstones staff told me they can only pass information on, and seemed very reluctant to do so. WHSmith told me they don’t support ‘local authors’.
  • I’ve researched the names of key non-fiction book buyers, and sent them personal letters, with a review copy sent to the head office address. Zero response.
  • I’ve searched LinkedIn, and found the non-fiction book buyer for Waterstones, plus other people in buying and marketing roles, written them a personal message explaining my publishing success and asking how I can submit my book. Zero response.

Self Publishing (from the Amazon website)

If you are an author or writer, you can always choose to sell only your own books in your stores. Many authors do maintain their own websites on which they offer their titles for sale, while some of them also list their books on sites like Amazon. You could even publish and sell your own books with Amazon’s Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP), which allows authors to independently publish their books as ebooks that can be read on Kindle Readers, or have them printed under Amazon’s ‘print on demand’ feature, wherein a book will only be printed if the buyer chooses that option.
 
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Lot of boll@cks, they decided on a front cover months ago....why third party printers. just trying to blind people with facts......exactly they didnt even ask if your were trade or individual, what another s**tload of lies

Exactly - troubador do their own printing. And yes they do apparently have contacts who can make placing books easier, but this is not what RD said. He said the books were only ever going to be for his followers. That’s why he sold them like he did!
 
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