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allaboardthebirkeybike said:

Hello all.
I've been umming and arring about saying anything. But I don't mind saying that the 3 of you that are now mainly or only over here are 3of the people I initially clicked most with for different reasons and that is no offence to anyone else!
I do hope you're all happy and feeling better and I concur that you will be missed. More than you might believe.

@noseyneighbour .. Forgive me for copying part of one of your posts but this is possibly one of the most compelling reasons I had to reply! (That's not what's keeping me up all night and staying I'm my mind..it's the hurt, betrayal, disappointment and the fact that so many of them believe I am this bad nutjob)
Nosey I hope you know that not only would I never ever think or say that. I also wouldn't scroll past it either. I don't know if you have seen something I haven’t because I've not been on much today but never! I want to apologise genuinely if I added to you feeling a type of way. I certainly did validate your feelings as I was one of the few up seeing the mess in real time. I also understand that me loving a post is what you mainly took umbridge with me about and that's fine. As I said over there I'm not apologising for a reaction and I did find your response of "take everything else back" comment childish. However I didn't only find it childish but hurtful tbh. As I said you have always been one of the people I just got and I feel you did me. We've had some lovely chats and laughs imo anyway. So to take it all back insinuates it was fake and none of it was to me. Only love and laughter.
I admit I can be quite savage with my posts, I have a very dark humour and a potty mouth. But I have never ever had or even thought a bad thing about any other members and my wickedness has always been "Aimed" correctly. Whether you believe it or not I loved the post as it was drawing a line and stopping the cycle. I didn't love any slurs or nastiness I'll be honest I don't find it that deep and skim-read a lot! So I didn't actually read and analyse every word before reacting. But if I offended you I'm sorry.
Anyway that's me. I just needed to tell you Nosey that you're not someone I 'liked' you're someone I like. I just needed to clear that up and I'm not mentioning any of this again. I'm here for a laugh.
I wish no-one felt the need to leave but if it's best for your mh then OK. I genuinely wish you all nothing but love

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RosieJo said:

@noseyneighbour

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Missy said:

Good evening ladies, can I just say all of you that have decided to leave the Aimee chat will be missed. I liked chatting with all of youI wasn’t aware people felt like some were more friendly to others.
I understand why you are all upset, but personally since I offended people unintentionally I just ignore if something annoys me and since Jo, I stopped jumping in defending people because I found it got even more aggro and the issue would take longer to settle down. I leave it up those directly involved and scroll on or ignore If I find someone annoying or disagree with them.
I really hope you all come back and if not I will catch up with what you’re up to over here.
Sending love to all of you

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noseyneighbour said:

Wow...so true... who is this girl lol

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thelurker66 said:

I simply said I was taking a break? And stated a post was well written nosey and I’m allowed to do that. I’m exhausted with all this back and forth and like you I also have my own stuff to deal with on top of this.
Seems it’s freedom of speech apart from when it’s me saying I need a break.
Wow

Edit to say it also isn’t starting anything over there it has been mentioned throughout today and I simply was saying I need a break like I’ve said here and there.

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RosieJo said:

I follow her on tiktok, I'll find her and send you her username

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noseyneighbour said:

Just to reply to this specifically, I'm not saying you can't have your say... I politely asked if stuff from here could stay here. Of course u can say you are taking a break and if you thought a message was well written. That's your opinion. I just didn't understand why as u were both over here..u didn't reply to her actual message on here. Not dictating...it just seemed odd to take it back over there. Naturally.. it wud start things up again and ppl will question and be curious and everyone seemed to be very insistent about not continuing it over there (unless that only applied to me)
It also casts more shade on me saying things like well ive tried and can't win etc. People are gonna naturally be sympathetic to you and reinforce negative opinions on me..more than there is already.
I don't think it was accurate really either cuz i actually reached out to you on here and apologised again...
I know I'm may hv gone off on on a tangent as per usual but a lot didn't relate to you and u don't have to be responsible for representing others again when they can and did that themselves in the same time period.
Did you take my 'calling out' to you message negatively then? I was honest but also remorseful. The other group didn't get that bit taken back which is a bit unfair imo.
I do agree it is definitely an agree to disagree situation.
I know I'm a dog with a bone when i feel something is unjust and unfair...(to me.)
I tried to take responsibility and acknowledged a lot of stuff in my message to you and others. I know u chose to reply back to me and as I said..I appreciated it. I have apologised numerous times to a lot of ppl..including you.. and I do feel bad for making you and others feel that way as I do actually care. It doesn't feel like I get the same back to me...which again hurts. If i didn't care what u thought..it wudnt bother me. Whether u disagree with me or not..u did like and respect me previously so i wud have hoped you may have some empathy back to me...even if u don't feel u hv anything to apologise for.
I don't want to argue anymore. I am just responding to everyone as honestly as i can.

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Eitak58 said:

I’m not derailing the A thread and this thread is open to everyone so as I’m the mentioned in a lot of conversation I’ll reply here as I think I’ve a right to reply, and probably need to if this is going to be resolved. After that I will stay out of this thread as I know you guys use it as a safe space,and reinstate the ignore feature.


NN writes mostly really long deep posts, posts mostly off the topic of A and posts I mostly skipped past as I don’t really know how to interact with a stranger on that deep of a level. For me it’s a forum where we give our opinion on the likes of A, have a laugh and bit of fun. It’s not deeper than that. But it is for her and that’s absolutely fine.

The night in question she wrote a really irritate post about that troll Dani and how she’d used her personal information that she had posted etc. It was quite late on and not many people were online so felt wrong if I ignored it, so thought I’d try be supportive. All I said was to not give the troll the attention they craved, don’t let them get under their skin as wasn’t worth it and to not share personal info for them to use. What is wrong with that exactly? That’s not insulting, rude or bullying (and that Dani had been trying to get under all our skins and I said to others prior to all this to ignore and don’t give the satisfaction etc. I maintain that too). And I’m not a psychic and didn’t realise my support wasn’t the kind she wanted. And wasn’t to know what was going on in her personal life or trauma she’s had or kind of replies that she needs. And I didn’t like her response to my post so just basically said I couldn’t be arsed and didn’t want to argue. And I can’t even describe their behaviour after in any other way than a complete overreaction. From then on I wasn’t pandering.

Now im the bad guy, I’m the one who’s apparently going to turn on others, I’ve been called a bully, a narc, a gaslighter, a manipulator, lacking in empathy, mean girl, no compassion, deluded, not genuine or credible - the list goes on. All because I didn’t help in a way someone deemed the right way and didn’t validate someone’s feelings the way they deem the right way all after getting attacked for trying to help. How is that ok?! And I have stuck up for myself too, I’m not going to write all warm and fuzzy responses to posters who are insulting me and/or attacking me. I mean what do they expect. And also the only other person I’ve ever had a disagreement with is Lurker and we resolved it like adults, so it doesn’t happen all the time. But it somehow seems to be used as validation to keep writing s about me.

It also seems as people didn’t see it the same way as NN and Rosie then that’s what the biggest issue seems to be. Like they expected everyone to gang up on me. Everyone to see it their way. And really if you actually look at their posts it’s them who have been unkind, rude and insulting not me. (Except My Gatwick post which was very poor yes and I apologise, but the rest of my posts I’ve not insulted or ripped anyone’s character apart on them, just stuck up for myself ). And it just keeps coming, saying I’ve mocked how people end messages to others when I haven’t, I was comparing styles and explain people post in different ways so used that as example. It’s got to the point where NN is seeing things she wants to see rather than how they actually are.

I will always be self aware enough to know i don’t always come across well in written form. I have never been able to show affection through written words, only by actions. But I accept we aren’t all going to like everyone and we will not be everyone’s cup of tea, or Posting styles won’t be ones everyone wants to interact with but people can still coexist in a place together as we are adults and this place has an ignore function too. It works on the flip side too, we all have posters we connect with or just get (I have that with so many wonderful souls on the A thread and even one I click with I even had to ask my sister if it was her as we get on that well). I have apologised and tried to explain how my initial post was taken wrong but people won’t accept that so I have to be past caring if people want to accept that as I cannot keep reiterating it. I am quite frankly just aghast to the overreacting, the insults and nasty remarks about me and my character and the complete disregard for the hypocrisy.

But my takeaway piece is I don’t want people leaving cos I’m in the group or thinking the group as a whole is bad cos they interact with me. They are good, incredibly funny people. We’ve all waited a long time to have somewhere to voice our opinions on A. And I just want it to be light hearted . So im happy to move aside from that thread if it makes things easier as I am active in other threads. Just for the sake of the thread and sake of being able to put this to bed now. So I hope after tonight it’s done with, we can act like adults and use the ignore function etc if that’s needed.

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thelurker66 said:

I saw this whilst I was lurking around.
I’m not going to do some big message as I really do need a break that I’m certain about.
The reason why I didn’t respond on here is because I didn’t want you to get the impression that I was supporting one more than the other and didn’t want it to appear that I was rubbing your nose in it - all I’ve ever done is try and spare your feelings yet you are under the impression I do not care or acknowledge them when that is far from the case all I’ve ever done is try and shield you from videos like that and from other people. I would never tell you what or where you can post I’d simply ask you your reasoning and give you the benefit of the doubt.

I’ve done sod all apart from try and diffuse the situation and acknowledge your feelings even when this first happened you’ll accept that of others but not of me and that quite frankly baffles my brain.
When in reality all I’ve done is what I’ve just said tried to shield you, acknowledge your feelings whilst also trying to stop a situation escalating to the point you end up more upset than you ever needed to be.

Like I’ve said I’m a t of a troll but I’ve been nothing but kind to you.
You’ve saw red where there was blue.

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thelurker66 said:

I’ve had nothing but empathy for you, you just don’t seem to see that.
If anything I’ve got more grief than the original person you had an issue with.
For what exactly? Not realising it wasn’t the new video you meant, acknowledging your feelings were high and like I said trying to prevent you from being more upset than you needed to be and rationalise things.

If that makes me a bad person then quite frankly I’ll take that because nothing I say or do makes any difference.

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noseyneighbour said:

But now you are guilty of seeing what you want to see...not reading what I've said. Yes i said it felt u dismissed it a bit and said it was the same for u and the others.
I have responded to a lot of what u have said so I dont know why u say it doesn't make a difference or u can't do right. That's not true and I'm confused now on how you are taking my responses.
If u didn't mean anything to me or wasn't making a difference...i wudnt have said what i did.
It feels now that nothing i say is good enough...remorseful enough or feel bad enough. I do and have said it.
So if u no longer want to converse with me and work thru them just say. I'm aware u are taking a break so are prob eager to move on...

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Countess Dracula said:

Nosey I hope you don’t mind me adding my thoughts on this, but I was actually reading in ‘real time’ from the start of this even though I didn’t comment at the time. I haven’t formed any bonds with anyone as you have which I understand would have made you feel worse if you felt those people weren’t supporting you. I just come on for a laugh and to b about Aimee. I haven’t spoken with anybody on a personal level like you have so I can see why you took the following responses differently to how I was reading them as there was no emotion attached for me but that also maybe helped me see it abit clearer.

The original comment that upset you I understand how you felt as I read it as blunt as you did. I really like this ladies bluntness and humour but on that occasion I didn’t press ‘like’ on that comment because I thought it was harsh and I read it in the tone that you did. You then responded at the time quite rightly abruptly back and went on to say that you were hurt (or words to that effect) by it. I didn’t jump in as I felt you needed to sort it out between the two of you. Once the poster explained the tone in which they wrote it I then understood how they meant it to come across and I should have realised it wasn’t meant in a nasty way at all and it was just the usual dry delivery of that ladies comments. Unfortunately you were too upset to accept that this wasn’t how it was meant and when they said they cba it just carried on. It did start to escalate and others were trying to diffuse the situation. I get at the time you were very upset and particularly with certain people, but the tooing and froing did get abit tedious and it felt like it was going on and on and it was derailing the thread. I hope now you’ve had a few days to calm down you will feel able to come back. I can assure you that nobody would make you feel unwelcome as they are a nice bunch of people over there and you can always press the ignore button for any of us if you feel you need to.

Anyway I’m going on too long but just to add that if we were all together in real life there is no way I would let anyone sit on their own and not feel welcome in any group I was involved in, so do come back if and when you can x

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thelurker66 said:

You’re also guilty of seeing what you want to see in my opinion so many people have been nice to you and you’ve refused to acknowledge that you are only just starting to today and I know that may be out of upset but that’s still what happened.
And I’m really not seeing what I want to see do you think I’m somehow enjoying this back and forth I’ve said numerous times what’s happened has happened and it needs to be moved on from you’ve had an apology and an explanation of eitak if you don’t want to accept it then that’s your right and I respect that.
But currently this back and forth isn’t getting anyone anywhere.
And yes I do need the break, mainly because of this situation if I’m being completely honest.

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thelurker66 said:

You’re also guilty of seeing what you want to see in my opinion so many people have been nice to you and you’ve refused to acknowledge that you are only just starting to today and I know that may be out of upset but that’s still what happened.
And I’m really not seeing what I want to see do you think I’m somehow enjoying this back and forth I’ve said numerous times what’s happened has happened and it needs to be moved on from you’ve had an apology and an explanation of eitak if you don’t want to accept it then that’s your right and I respect that.
But currently this back and forth isn’t getting anyone anywhere.
And yes I do need the break, mainly because of this situation if I’m being completely honest.

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noseyneighbour said:

That's why I said...now u are guilty. I already know what I have seen said and done.
I've had to sit back and reflect and remove some of the emotion as that was the right thing to do. If my comments and acknowledgements are too late for some..I can't do anything else about that.
You're not seeing what u want to see?
Why are u speaking on behalf of the other person...again..it's getting weird. They are more than strong enough to respond on their own like everyone else. Should I have not replied to anyone then?
Do u want me to just read everything and just not respond amd silence me. I haven't implied u like back and forth. It's conversation and each responding to other's points. You can't seem to accept my apology either so what's the point.
I've done my best to respond calmly and honestly and if that is still not good enough then block me or whatever u do on here.

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noseyneighbour said:

How can u read this and take this badly. I think u are referring to my reply to the other person which is nothing to do with us...

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