Need to properly confirm this is true, but it's looking that way, if it is a massive con, then the followers and the people who ordered the book, need to be made aware. What action can be taken I dont know. See how the next few days unfold. But captain jack sparrow himself who already knows what's been going on should be informed.He was a proven con man. I also honestly believe he didn’t think he would die from cancer and that’s where the con started. It was an easy way to make money the fund raisers, GFM and the book and if he had been given more time there would have been a lot more. He just couldn’t help himself loved the attention from IG but then cancer won. It seems now though that Lisa is actually in on it and she is living off the book funds and what was left of the £60k GFM galla ticket money and as his passed I bet no one will ever be accountable but just those 2 things the book and the GFM was over £100k worth of fraud. There was a girl in the papers yesterday who was sentenced to 2 years from stealing £30k from a charity she had set up. We said months again it’s a shame a proper journalist wasn’t interested in this story and someone hadn’t investigated this properly, as that’s alot of tax free fraudulent money Lisa has been enjoying over the past 18months
So its all changed in a day..... when bob called there was no set time, just it could be next year,Guys I’ve got an email back from the publishers
They are saying March next year. I will screen shot their reply shortly!
I’ve uploaded the publishers reply.Sounds like shes be made aware people are calling the publishers, and put a date forward to shut people up, but why March, ???? ???? It was October last week....... just another delay. Unless there was no book at all, and shes panicking and putting one together. Be easier just to return the money. None of this adds up...... Even more bizzare now. So she really thinks people are going to be happy with yet another delay,....... waiting another five months for this non existent book.
No, but the terms of the contract have changed materially (which they did already when people paid for a signed copy anyway, and the person died before it was published) and she must offer people the opportunity of a refund. There can be no more making it awkward for people because they actually do have a legal recourse. If she was smart and decent she would have put something on the website saying that there were delays and she couldn’t guarantee a delivery date, and that everyone who wanted a refund would get one without any question. Instead she thought she could give a cut-off date and then move the goal posts again. That’s not the case. She needs to speak to one of their incredibly expensive lawyers and they’ll verify that what I say (also a lawyer, although non-practicing at the mo!) is true!Personally the whole thing stinks, and as long as there is a so called publishing time given, technically it cant be reported as fraud....people will just have to wait, clever woman!! maybe shes waiting for house to sell so she can disappear who knows......
Why march, is it going to take that long to talk it thru with family...
All stinks, something is going on here.....
“Fraud by false representation is when an individual or business deliberately lies or misrepresents the truth when conducting a transaction in order to make a financial gain for themselves and/or cause a loss to another party.” The bowelbro page now says book coming October 23. With the knowledge that the publisher does not even have the manuscript that renders that a lie. Therefore she is committing fraud by false representation and must refund everyone who asks for it. And Lisa, please be clear, this isn’t trolling you or your deceased husband, this is ensuring that people aren’t being ripped off because it has been suggested that you aren’t conducting yourself in the best way when they are quite rightly asking for what they have paid for. Of course people understand that you are grieving, but if that has made it impossible for you to deliver your obligations you must refund the money. Just to be clear “fraudulent misrepresentation: where a false representation has been made knowingly, or without belief in its truth, or recklessly as to its truth. Negligent misrepresentation: a representation made carelessly and in breach of duty owed by Party A to Party B to take reasonable care that the representation is accurate.” (My italics). Even if that misrepresentation was made by Richard, (who also made a promise that the profits from the “second edition” would be given to charities chosen by his followers, in a subsequently unavailable live post) carrying it on as the beneficiary of any income from the project will pass the liability on.No
No, but the terms of the contract have changed materially (which they did already when people paid for a signed copy anyway, and the person died before it was published) and she must offer people the opportunity of a refund. There can be no more making it awkward for people because they actually do have a legal recourse. If she was smart and decent she would have put something on the website saying that there were delays and she couldn’t guarantee a delivery date, and that everyone who wanted a refund would get one without any question. Instead she thought she could give a cut-off date and then move the goal posts again. That’s not the case. She needs to speak to one of their incredibly expensive lawyers and they’ll verify that what I say (also a lawyer, although non-practicing at the mo!) is true!
thank you for outlining that so clearly and professionally. A true representation of non trolling but a genuine point to outline the facts of this whole situation.“Fraud by false representation is when an individual or business deliberately lies or misrepresents the truth when conducting a transaction in order to make a financial gain for themselves and/or cause a loss to another party.” The bowelbro page now says book coming October 23. With the knowledge that the publisher does not even have the manuscript that renders that a lie. Therefore she is committing fraud by false representation and must refund everyone who asks for it. And Lisa, please be clear, this isn’t trolling you or your deceased husband, this is ensuring that people aren’t being ripped off because it has been suggested that you aren’t conducting yourself in the best way when they are quite rightly asking for what they have paid for. Of course people understand that you are grieving, but if that has made it impossible for you to deliver your obligations you must refund the money. Just to be clear “fraudulent misrepresentation: where a false representation has been made knowingly, or without belief in its truth, or recklessly as to its truth. Negligent misrepresentation: a representation made carelessly and in breach of duty owed by Party A to Party B to take reasonable care that the representation is accurate.” (My italics). Even if that misrepresentation was made by Richard, (who also made a promise that the profits from the “second edition” would be given to charities chosen by his followers, in a subsequently unavailable live post) carrying it on as the beneficiary of any income from the project will pass the liability on.
Hopefully they will soon find our postsVery well said,
I hope somebody from the T dark web will read all this soon and let the Tats know what Bob and @Sal have uncovered, bettys been asking about the book today....
Dont know if his followers read on here but they certainly do on T.
One last point I’m sure some one will have original screen shots of his page when it used to saying coming spring 2023“Fraud by false representation is when an individual or business deliberately lies or misrepresents the truth when conducting a transaction in order to make a financial gain for themselves and/or cause a loss to another party.” The bowelbro page now says book coming October 23. With the knowledge that the publisher does not even have the manuscript that renders that a lie. Therefore she is committing fraud by false representation and must refund everyone who asks for it. And Lisa, please be clear, this isn’t trolling you or your deceased husband, this is ensuring that people aren’t being ripped off because it has been suggested that you aren’t conducting yourself in the best way when they are quite rightly asking for what they have paid for. Of course people understand that you are grieving, but if that has made it impossible for you to deliver your obligations you must refund the money. Just to be clear “fraudulent misrepresentation: where a false representation has been made knowingly, or without belief in its truth, or recklessly as to its truth. Negligent misrepresentation: a representation made carelessly and in breach of duty owed by Party A to Party B to take reasonable care that the representation is accurate.” (My italics). Even if that misrepresentation was made by Richard, (who also made a promise that the profits from the “second edition” would be given to charities chosen by his followers, in a subsequently unavailable live post) carrying it on as the beneficiary of any income from the project will pass the liability on.