“Ma Baker”! That really makes me laugh!!!If you look at the person who put pics up on Tat, despite the copyright threats, may I add..... it shows a signature, I think it was included as part of the page printout...
And Tracy says ' its clearly feeding the sceptics ' Tracey is 'clearly' reading on here, seems like, because Tat havent really said much........Tracey, if it wasnt for us, there would be nothing for nobody, cos this leaflet of a book thats 208 pages instead of the advertised 300.....was only written by Ma Baker in a rush after she was found to be lying by US "trolls" about Troubador printers, so she wouldn't get done for fraud....you have no idea...... we have been on your side the whole time!!
A very bizarre thing to have said indeed!Not mine, think its from @Poppyseed goes back to the 'if you come for me you will find me right behind you' comment lisa made threatening the lady in the wheelchair that she outed...said it had gangster vibes, ......lisa used to work in child services for pitys sake...
I think she’s very controlling. The people who came onto here to say about the book have both disappeared. The Nurse one was last seen after the little outburst a couple of weeks ago when she showed a page of text in the book, the other one disappeared almost immediately. There’s a need to control the narrative that I’m afraid makes people suspicious. It’s a lot of drama. If Richard didn’t die that’s a hell of a pretence to keep up, and at first I had my doubts, but I really don’t know now and suspect he may have died. If that is the case, for me it makes the strange behaviour from her worse. What’s she’s done hasn’t defended her dead husband’s name but dragged it through the mud. As I said at the beginning, nobody would have cared if she’d just refunded everyone their book money. They would only have bought the book because they were swept up in a moment with R, and he was a great salesperson clearly, but she could have drawn a line in the sand, paid them back and walked away from it all and nobody really would have questioned anything else about her. The fact she got into arguments and name-calling, was vindictive and threatening and tried to manipulate meant that 4 months later instead of this all having been put to bed and her being able to mourn her husband in private people are picking through the bones of their story. How ridiculous. I knew she was reading this early on and I said the same thing to her then, but instead of listening she tried to “out” me, thinking I had an Instagram business she could destroy because she didn’t like what I said! She’s made a complete cock-up of this and needs to fix it now.Especially for a woman with her employment back ground, can you imagine her employers reading that she would threaten someone in that way.....gangster vibes, but 'Ma baker' she aint....
Do the Tracys and the cherubs think thats acceptable, because that makes them just as bad.......
TowchesterWere did she live, thats half hour away...?
I don’t disagree with you @Tired of the BS, but I’m also not convinced they have the wherewithal to orchestrate such a massive and complex story. If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to admit they’re “smarter” than they looked! Of course the whole thing from start of bowelbro could have been some elaborate ruse and they got carried away with their own importance, but it just feels a bit scrappy to me. If it is a con it’s probably more likely to be to fix bad debts rather than walk away with millions I’d imagine, but who knows. If he isn’t dead all the friends who have posted about him should be dragged in to it too, because you know if you’re best friend is dying in a hospice or not. My feeling is their life wasn’t as “glamorous” as they made out, they had borrowed to buy and do up that house and needed to pay back some dodgy old loan company, but house prices haven’t done what they hoped and there’s no way it’s worth what they hoped it would be. I suspect they both got carried away with the attention on instagram and thought it translated into real, and I also suspect the “friends” were friends of his mate Lee, who jumped in to support him when he asked for something and therefore wouldn’t be around for R or Lisa. Lee had said in a much earlier post that they were building mates. They weren’t at Lee’s wedding, which was very small by the look of it, and maybe that’s because he was ill (although if my bestie hadn’t been at my wedding because she was ill I would have made sure everyone knew that on my dozens of posts!) or because they just weren’t that close. People often want to get more involved when someone’s dying. It’s that grief tourist thing. Or maybe he genuinely felt sorry for him and wanted to give him some friendship because he knew he didn’t really have any? There are so many possible scenarios and so many players in this story! And the building development he was involved in - he said he’d been bought out several months ago and was invited to the opening of the show house which he was very touched about. He also said they’d called the house after him or something. I would imagine his “company” may have been brought in on a profit share agreement, where they don’t really see much until the properties are sold and then they have a bigger pay off because they’re sharing the risk. He may have wanted out because of impending death and knowing he was never going to be around for the payday, and the developer may have been a decent person and agreed to that. They would still have said the houses were built by him if they were. The real issue might be where is that buy out shown on any company accounts?Agree with all of that,
But who's to say hes not abroad, and she never sees him, you would fall into the grieving widow act.....biding time waiting for the interest to die down, dont forget he only really existed in the bowelbro Instagram world, nobody else knows who he is........would be easy to disappear, ....if she stops responding to the BB ibsta, people will lose interest and it will all go quiet, unless theres a kick off over the missing books, like you say shes never defended him, never spoken up about people saying hes not dead....wants to keep it low key....
Theres been so many untruths and lies and fabrications can you blame us for doubting......no proof of death at all, a hospice he stayed at for a while, while she's busy flogging books, shutting companies down, and taking cars back...he could of gone home to 'die'
The hospice only knows what they are told, the funeral pics...just a few pictures of him......no obituaries.....not even from family......do his family have any idea, they werent close...she didnt want the Northampton chronicle knowing, it was a tat that told them......if he has passed all very strange behaviour and maybe tax fraud, since she didnt report his death to Companies house, which she now has had too..........because bob reported his death.....then theres the barn developments and now shes gone, ignoring everyone....still reading on here i bet......they both sound deluded enough to treat this as some sort of massive exciting adventure.........bonnie and clyde vibes..lol.....
Wow when you actually put it like that! Yes where did all that money come from??? Their house isn’t to my taste but your right just the furniture alone must have cost an absolute fortune. Companies house proves his companies never made any money. First thing HMRC do is look at socials. That’s why I always thought he had turned his IG to private. As there’s no way he could financially back up his lifestyle. Her salary would never ever provide all that.On another note, quick spinners to pay debt off...would he do that, he had a trail of debt....not forgetting Stinkbomb cottage....
But were did the money come from for the house rebuild/makeover, the new furniture, the garish cherry tree, the big flash wedding, the expensive holiday, the range rover, the Ferrari, the expensive dog, the designer clothes, the expensive private chef meals, the cash givaways....not forgetting the WLS they both had.....if they had that kind of money, why were they begging for cash on GFM and why start a bowelbro charity and keep the money instead of giving it to kids with cancer as promised.....