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I don't know anything about pig's trotters either, but in the photo of the pig in a crate/cage I couldn't see any overgrown trotters, only in the separate photo. 🤷‍♂️ All I'm wondering is why I'm supposed to believe this specific internet slander. I appreciate there's photos of dogs with overgrown claws, but again how do I know it's his dogs?

People also keep saying that Adam was using the animals for gifts/money, that he was living off the money, living the high life etc. Looking at how that man was living, he weren't living no "high life". He was clearly desperately struggling to cope, for whatever reason. Adam has openly expressed how much his mental health has been deteriorating over the last year or so, so why is it a shock to discover he had bitten off more than he could chew & was trying to save face to a point?

Why is it always "mental health affects people differently" and "everybody copes in different ways" until something like this, then it's"I suffer from xyz & I would never" and "my aunt/uncle/cousin/neighbour/Tesco shelf stocker/weird old drunk down the pub has xyz mental health, but their cat is fed diamonds and caviar, so there's no excuse". I'm not saying I don't think Adam fed up in aspects, but I don't believe he has abandoned or abused those animals.
I've just read up on trotters and apparently they can get deformed if cut too often? We don't know the history of this pig? Maybe there was a problem when he rescued it? What has the vet said? Because I wouldn't take what someone has said on TT.
 

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I've just read up on trotters and apparently they can get deformed if cut too often? We don't know the history of this pig? Maybe there was a problem when he rescued it? What has the vet said? Because I wouldn't take what someone has said on TT.

I believe the vet has said they look like not been touched in a few years. Adam has said didn’t have a pig farrier.
 

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He converted an old outhouse into the dog kennels. He did go through everything he did with that specific donation last year, but I can't remember exactly what now. All I gather from that situation is Paul & Panda thought it was going to be a brand new, built from scratch, state of the art fing kennel. Adam made what he all ready had work, and it wasn't good enough. I don't know how much they think you get for £10k, but it's definitely not a new building. 🤷‍♂️

Yeah I’m not sure how far they thought 10k would go tbh. For me, it’s that he took the money but never ever put a dog in them.
 

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I've not seen any photos of cruelty regarding his care towards his animals. I've seen proof that he didn't abandoned his animals. Why haven't the police been involved or animal welfare if he just left the animals? Rescue is toxic 🥺 these animals are safe. Maybe rescues can put more effort into getting on with looking after their own animals instead of slatting other rescues. Or talk about how Turkey is slaughtering all street dogs 🥺
The pics were on pandas page of the way he left the place and animals

I think they said because it's Spanish law it was hard to get a conviction

Adam confirmed last night in his live he left dogs there that the property owner took on, and he never mentioned the pig, he was majorly deflecting in my opinion

But I agree with you on the rescues need to concentrate on rescuing and caring for animals not tearing each other down
 

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None of us are truly going to know. ZDB is a b, so I wouldn't believe anything he said about Adam's place. The only other person I know went there is Billy, and I do believe he is fiercely loyal to Adam. The only thing I do know is we're always told to be suspicious of what we're told on the internet until we have seen solid proof. If ZDB has an unedited "home video" of him arriving at Adam's and exploring the premises which show the animals were abused/neglected, then I would be inclined to believe it. Until then, I'm taking the accusations with a large pinch of salt.

Has ZDB said something about place? I don’t watch his lives anymore. If he has a video then surely he should have gone to someone sooner? Or said something sooner? 🤷‍♀️ doing nothing is being complicit.

Dave Doran’s went a couple times, dunno if he’s said anything x
 
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The pics were on pandas page of the way he left the place and animals

I think they said because it's Spanish law it was hard to get a conviction

Adam confirmed last night in his live he left dogs there that the property owner took on, and he never mentioned the pig, he was majorly deflecting in my opinion

But I agree with you on the rescues need to concentrate on rescuing and caring for animals not tearing each other down
He also said he'd been raided and assessed by the Guardia several times. I would like to see those reports, in the original Spanish.
 

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I have very mixed feelings about the whole situation. I can’t help but feel for someone with such obvious poor MH. To me it looks more like an animal hoarding situation than a “rescue” which in itself is a MH problem.

The pigs trotters are definitely overgrown, it’s probably why she doesn’t like moving round too much. He has admitted he never had a pig farrier out. Pig farriers are awesome to watch, I watch loads on TikTok lol, they do way more than foot care.

I do think he got carried away with the gifting etc, his own gifting level is quite high, which tbh is money that could have gone to the animals care. He was feeding a poor/cheap diet, and you can see a lot were quite thin with poor quality coats, all dull. They did seem happy, so I do think he tried his best, but sadly fell short.

The dogs he shipped to U.K. were his and his mums dogs, the animals left behind must be so confused, it’s got to be a scary time for them. The lady that has the pig has been offering to take her for ages, but he wouldn’t let her, she had no shelter, no decent mud and a very poor diet. Hopefully she’ll be ok now.

I hope Adam, and the animals are all ok, but I think everyone involved should stop with the public stuff, back and forwards as it’s helping no one.
Omg have you watched the cow feet farrier, when the poor cows get bad feet need bandaged up, I dunno why but was satisfying to watch them fix it lol
 
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Has ZDB said something about place? I don’t watch his lives anymore. If he has a video then surely he should have gone to someone sooner? Or said something sooner? 🤷‍♀️ doing nothing is being complicit.

Dave Doran’s went a couple times, dunno if he’s said anything x
I don't watch him, I just know he's been there and he likes to film what he's doing, so I'm making assumptions that he would likely have such footage.

Dave is another that I would hope would speak out if he believed the animals were being abused/neglected. He's a t, but he does seem to be an animal lover.
 

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