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Is Max attending the school attached to his nursery or is he going to one closer to home . Like mainstream with support. Because If he was going to a sen school surely it wouldn't matter what bag or lunch box he took. It's like she's panicking about him standing out but if he was sen school no-one would bat a eye not that they would in main stream
She is just yet again thinking more about what people will think of her not max.

My little boy is in a specialist school and he’s 7 but he’s in a class with 12 and 13 year olds - he’s always took his favourite cartoon backpack, and packed lunch. No one had or would ever say anything. I’ve never even thought about telling him no because of others. That’s the materialistic mentality of her and having to think people might not think she has the best of everything.

She needs shooting
 

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Aww ffs , get the violins out . Stop seeking validation . Get out that house and take M for a walk / whatever . Where's that battery quad he got or was that for show ?!. Is visual / touch experiences not better ? Talk about things in the countryside you're living in , talk to the cows , pick flowers / press them in a book , talk about a stream nearby , the birds . Fk off and gies us peace , all materialistic things with her ! I'd be like that cooped up in a house all day too . Or how about summer playschemes / groups for outdoor stuff ? Oh wait no , you won't mix with other people because you're so disliked.
 
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That post is truly disgusting she isn’t trying to promote awareness she is embarrassed of how max is and she is in denial, you don’t spend anytime with him you let him roar in the background why can’t you do painting or try to do puzzles what do you think his nursery and school do with him just leave him to roar on his, she isn’t showing any awareness and she isn’t the only one who has a child who is disabled and all thoses Huns who think she is one of them need to have a serious look at themselves.
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Is Max attending the school attached to his nursery or is he going to one closer to home . Like mainstream with support. Because If he was going to a sen school surely it wouldn't matter what bag or lunch box he took. It's like she's panicking about him standing out but if he was sen school no-one would bat a eye not that they would in main stream
I think it the one next to the nursery he went to, even thought she doesn’t stay in the city there is people I know who aren’t happy she got a space and their children did not for max to not get a space just the fact she stays in Ellon and it’s a city school.
 

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I work in a nursery/have worked in primary schools too. The kids in P1 won’t care what bag or lunchbox their classmate have. As you said, it’s her own judgement there. Nobody else’s. Poor wee guy.
Cue the chavvy bag with his name on it instead of what he would actually like. She’s on the hunt for freebies sounds like!
 

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Call me crazy but she could be spending more time with him, instead of recording a video saying she would like to spend more time with him. 🤷‍♀️
There are millions of ways she could be engaging him. She needs to looks for different ways to what’s considered normal. She doesn’t look therefore she is choosing not to engage. You’re right. She’s embarrassed by him in public. She’s vile.
 

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So busy opening all her PR today and replying to all the opportunities so so much is coming guys!! so max’s uniform will have to wait, she hasn’t been sent anything free yet so made a video of her on the scrounge so she doesn’t need to leave faulty towers to buy her son the things he needs only what she wants. Punting doll beauty now 😂 oh Brendan you’re in the bad books. How dare you drop vav for someone who is more valuable to your business!! She’s seething 💁‍♀️
 
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There are millions of ways she could be engaging him. She needs to looks for different ways to what’s considered normal. She doesn’t look therefore she is choosing not to engage. You’re right. She’s embarrassed by him in public. She’s vile.
I try not to talk on the subject because I don’t know anything about it. But my take is she’s struggling with how Max is, he doesn’t fit her mould of what she wants him to be, finds his loudness embarrassing. I say this because of the terminology. She could have said max is loud and we’d have understood. Instead she said ‘extremely loud’.. emphasis on the noise he makes over anything else. Tears flowing when discussing the noise and being in a public setting.

I’m just reading the tiktok as I see it. I try to stay away from autism chat as I know nothing at all to form opinions.

Why can’t she paint and colour in with him? Would this wee hands and fingers in bright colours be sensory things for him? Again, I’m clueless.

Is there a reason parents with autistic children can’t attempt what’s considered ‘normal’?
What do they do in nursery & school?
 

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I try not to talk on the subject because I don’t know anything about it. But my take is she’s struggling with how Max is, he doesn’t fit her mould of what she wants him to be, finds his loudness embarrassing. I say this because of the terminology. She could have said max is loud and we’d have understood. Instead she said ‘extremely loud’.. emphasis on the noise he makes over anything else. Tears flowing when discussing the noise and being in a public setting.

I’m just reading the tiktok as I see it. I try to stay away from autism chat as I know nothing at all to form opinions.

Why can’t she paint and colour in with him? Would this wee hands and fingers in bright colours be sensory things for him? Again, I’m clueless.

Is there a reason parents with autistic children can’t attempt what’s considered ‘normal’?
What do they do in nursery & school?
He would probably love to paint all kids love to paint and get messy, she could create sensory station for him but instead he is kept in that house on a beautiful day while she is on doing crying videos because she is embarrassed nothing to do with max she is, their is loads of places she could take him around Aberdeen and the shire she doesn’t wonder why plenty of groups to go to she doesn’t maybe has something to do with her reputation, she didn’t raise lily so has no idear and now max is not consider a normal child no one would bat an eye if they are out but Steph wants them to so she can make content, she has really hit a nerve with me and that video as she is just a lazy parent and the Huns who have autistic children need to wake up and see what she is really like.
 

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She got most emotional when talking about his outbursts in public, I felt the sense of embarrassment, but moved on to saying she wanted to normalise it.
I do feel she’s struggling to accept his autism and what comes with it, more than this being about educating people on autism.
I think she is embarrassed but his stimming will get louder as he gets older and that stimming could turn into very loud moans and groans depending on how brain damaged he is and the long term affects of his long term health. He is very loud already but that's not his fault and yes she can't hide her annoyance must be hard for her when she's trying to make her ' content'
 
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Shoot me down if you don’t agree. But from that latest video, she comes across as she’s upset at the situations she’s put in when max has outbursts in public, and how it makes her look, got the sense of embarrassment.

In my eyes, until you yourself stop feeling embarrassed, you won’t be able to teach anyone else to accept him. For me, if I was to hear Max on a plane or out in public I wouldn’t give it a second thought, or think anything of the mother negatively.
I think she’s struggling to accept her reality.
She literally makes my blood boil I’ve got one son who vocally STIMS and my other can speak he stims everywhere we go! I’m normalising that when he does it what’s with her!

This part annoyed my to the core bcos Max can’t speak YET she can still interact with him she’s an utter selfish cow! I spend more time with my son who can’t speak we do colouring paintings water play sensory play the list goes on we don’t do books he hates them but just bcos you can’t talk DOSENT mean they can’t listen take things in REPETITION vav and you’ve probs been told this numerous times

The only REPETITION max gets from you is being away from him your not a consistent parent at all so see when you made that statement of Max dad dosent have him a lot bcos he works away your the exact same but the thing is Stephanie babe is that Petr puts the work in the days he has max he LEARNED him how to use a straw use a fork use a spoon not YOU

YOU are the common denominator in everything sit back and take a look at what you’ve destroyed in life the families that despise you the people you TROLL on a daily basis

YOU MY HUNNY ARE A s PARENT A s HUMAN BEING TO EVER GRACE THIS EARTH YOU DO NOT DESERVE CHILDREN!!
 

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I try not to talk on the subject because I don’t know anything about it. But my take is she’s struggling with how Max is, he doesn’t fit her mould of what she wants him to be, finds his loudness embarrassing. I say this because of the terminology. She could have said max is loud and we’d have understood. Instead she said ‘extremely loud’.. emphasis on the noise he makes over anything else. Tears flowing when discussing the noise and being in a public setting.

I’m just reading the tiktok as I see it. I try to stay away from autism chat as I know nothing at all to form opinions.

Why can’t she paint and colour in with him? Would this wee hands and fingers in bright colours be sensory things for him? Again, I’m clueless.

Is there a reason parents with autistic children can’t attempt what’s considered ‘normal’?
What do they do in nursery & school?
You are spot on, without having an inside knowledge of autism you can see it for exactly what it is. What were seeing is an embodiment of her emotions which are not aligned with her experience. Does she think these noises are going to go away? If anything hes getting worse as he gets older and his voice changes. Yes it will be hellish to hear a mans voice doing that but again what are her expectations here. Just as he will be a strong man needing to be using disabled toilets to be changed if she doesnt try a few times a year every year to see if he will ever be ready instead of brushing this off as something he just cant do.

Max spoils her style when she is out in public she cant be the celeb she feels she is. He is what she used to s off to various friends.

Nobody bats an eyelid when children are clearly disabled but they do look to the people theyre with if theyre not doing the correct things.

Steph wants the normal experience of wanting the child to sit and be read to on her knee or in bed, Ive said before she needs to think OUTSIDE the box, engaging with him is not the same as normal children, max may appear to not engage but he will be listening and aware of everthing. She could be reading to him with her voice playing the characters, using props. Even if she is getting nothing back from him in terms of eye contact - he is still listening. She wants the experience to give something back to her and that is where she is going WRONG! She is wanting something from it and because she isnt getting it - she isnt putting the effort in! It requires repeated efforts and attempts and creating an actual routine for it so that max knows when to expect them as well.

Most sen mothers know about routine and structure but she doesnt really know Max and its more and more clear as time goes on. I know him from what she shares, she simply just isnt trying because she is looking for a two person experience when Max isnt going to actively participate in anything for any period of time. He works off his own agenda and if she cant find away to include herself she is the problem!!
 

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I think she is embarrassed but his stimming will get louder as he gets older and that stimming could turn into very loud moans and groans depending on how brain damaged he is and the long term affects of his long term health. He is very loud already but that's not his fault and yes she can't hide her annoyance must be hard for her when she's trying to make her ' content'
Could see it in her eyes when she was trying to push the tears out she is the one who is annoyed about his stimming, her child is 5 and away to start school in an environment where he will be around other children,she is so worried about how he is in public in this day and age their is so many more disabilities people aren’t shut away but that’s what she is doing with max no toys in the garden probably because it is the worse garden for a child who doesn’t understand dangers but that was her selfish way of showing off renting that house not one bit safe for her child to play so he is stuck indoors. She doesn’t take him anywhere and the Huns that are from Aberdeen why not meet up with them they blow smoke up her arse enough probably because she is worrred they will see the real her everyone does eventually that’s why everyone who knew her has fed off.
 

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Could see it in her eyes when she was trying to push the tears out she is the one who is annoyed about his stimming, her child is 5 and away to start school in an environment where he will be around other children,she is so worried about how he is in public in this day and age their is so many more disabilities people aren’t shut away but that’s what she is doing with max no toys in the garden probably because it is the worse garden for a child who doesn’t understand dangers but that was her selfish way of showing off renting that house not one bit safe for her child to play so he is stuck indoors. She doesn’t take him anywhere and the Huns that are from Aberdeen why not meet up with them they blow smoke up her arse enough probably because she is worrred they will see the real her everyone does eventually that’s why everyone who knew her has fed off.
She might as well make the money for the institution she is setting him up for by failing him every second hes with her. No routine, no structure, no planned activities inside or outside of the house, which should be the same day in and day out for him to understand right this is when mum will be reading a book and the house is quiet and im not allowed up the stairs etc - but max has no boundaries, allowed to do what he likes and has zero routine.
 

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It’s her that needs to be educated on autism and the many varied ways you can engage with an autistic child, as it is dependant on the child as to what will engage them. She should know the things Max loves. He loves water, so base your activities around that. He looked mesmerised by the fish at the aquarium - extend that interest. She clearly doesn’t try or see the point. He can’t talk so that’s it 🤷‍♀️ (not my opinion but it seems to be hers) She’ll spend more of her day talking into her phone to nobody than communicating with her son. That’s something she should be ashamed of, not what fing bag he’s going to take to school. His vocal stims are probably because he’s on his own wandering around the house whilst his Mother ignores him. He’s bored witless.
 

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She gets alot of advice on here and on Tattle. She refuses to actually change. For people that genuinely giving you advice, trolls or not - you cant be too choosy. Sometimes you cant see something until its pointed out to you - thats why Paeds send parents on these courses to see if they can learn more about their child - its clear you have not done any parenting courses because you clearly think you know it all!

I highly suggest she throws herself into any sensory/AU/ADHD parenting courses, if she has the patience for them (doubtful)

There is nothing wrong with parenting courses, they are for learning because were not built with all the knowledge it takes to be a parent, its a learning curve whether our kids are SEN or not - but you know what parents are dangerous to their children - the ones that think they already know it all IE YOU.

Do something for Max!! Instead of yourself.
 

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It’s her that needs to be educated on autism and the many varied ways you can engage with an autistic child, as it is dependant on the child as to what will engage them. She should know the things Max loves. He loves water, so base your activities around that. He looked mesmerised by the fish at the aquarium - extend that interest. She clearly doesn’t try or see the point. He can’t talk so that’s it 🤷‍♀️ (not my opinion but it seems to be hers) She’ll spend more of her day talking into her phone to nobody than communicating with her son. That’s something she should be ashamed of, not what fing bag he’s going to take to school. His vocal stims are probably because he’s on his own wandering around the house whilst his Mother ignores him. He’s bored witless.
she took him to the local swimming pool and he had a melt down which embarrassed her so she didnt take him back. There is no consistency. She needs to do some parenting courses that will give her confidence to deal with these situations and give her the tools that she clearly doesnt have.